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Posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2008, at 13:20:31
hi, i need urgent advice on this
tomorrow evening is 2 week since i started clozapine, will it kick in or not by this timei feel like a zombie, unable to function, diziness, heavy sedation
its not worth it, so is 2 weeks enough for it to work?
from my point of view i am incurable so far, only seroquel worked but this stopped working permanently
please advice i am willing to give it until sunday
Posted by Phillipa on June 13, 2008, at 1:03:30
In reply to URGENT - Clozapine 2 week trial, posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2008, at 13:20:31
Jeroen four weeks. Love Phillipa
Posted by bleauberry on June 13, 2008, at 19:15:05
In reply to URGENT - Clozapine 2 week trial, posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2008, at 13:20:31
I believe you are curable. I have faith in that. I have seen it a number of times when absolutely hopeless cases turned around on a dime when the right approach was tried. In all of those cases, the approach ended up being something that had not previously been considered as being relevant to the situation.
While the diagnosis book is helpful sometimes, it is also hurtful sometimes by limiting you to a set of drugs intended for a particular cluster of symptoms. I prefer what they call functional medicine, which is treating the person and not a set of textbook symptoms.
I said it before and I still believe, opinion, the doctors are too limited in your treatment. I've seen other people with your kind of symptoms respond to weird things like lithium, magnesium for pete's sake, klonopin, xanax, memantine, and others...but not to antipsychotics...actually they got worse on antipsychotics. Go figure. I don't try to figure it out. All I know is that logic says when the logical stuff doesn't work, there is no clearer clue in the world that the answer lies somewhere else.
Broader visions, more creativity, and more intuition is what some doctors need. Their textbooks keep them too limited and keep people like you stuck.
You will vastly improve when you try the right med or supplement. It would not surprise me if it is something you and your doctors never even thought of, even though you have both heard of it a zillion times but just never thought it would fit your case.
All this does not mean I have given up hope on clozapine. Another two weeks though, yeah.
Posted by Jeroen on June 13, 2008, at 19:23:41
In reply to Re: URGENT - Clozapine 2 week trial, posted by bleauberry on June 13, 2008, at 19:15:05
thanks
Posted by Zyprexa on June 16, 2008, at 15:42:27
In reply to URGENT - Clozapine 2 week trial, posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2008, at 13:20:31
Jeroen. When I started zyprexa, it made me tired and zombie all the time. You just have to get used to it. You will notice that other things have improved, like psychosis and your ability to function in the world. I know its not fun, but thats how it works. I am sure the clozapin is working for you, you just don't like the side effects.
Posted by Jeroen on June 16, 2008, at 15:48:20
In reply to Re: URGENT - Clozapine 2 week trial » Jeroen, posted by Zyprexa on June 16, 2008, at 15:42:27
i dont feel great like the seroquel cured me once
will there be a difference if i try the XR? or reverse the poop out effect with another drug ?
Posted by Zyprexa on June 17, 2008, at 13:33:41
In reply to Re: URGENT - Clozapine 2 week trial, posted by Jeroen on June 16, 2008, at 15:48:20
When seroquel cured you, did your eyes still blink, were you zombie? Or didn't notice any of that? Did you think about going back on seroquel, maybe higher dose, or er? Maybe if you stuck with it it was working and you couldn't tell?
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