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Posted by morganator on June 15, 2010, at 9:47:48
I more than doubled my fish oil intake over the last few days. I take Carlson's Salmon Oil. It may be placebo but I swear I feel so much better already. I have a clearer head, less headache, more energy, and better mood. I started fish oil ten years ago with significant benefit after a week. I have experimented with taking more in the past without this kind of success. Maybe it is the brand I'm using that is making a difference. Whatever it is, it appears that I require more fish oil than I used to in order to reap the benefits.
Posted by janejane on June 15, 2010, at 11:10:11
In reply to More than Doubled Fish Oil Intake, posted by morganator on June 15, 2010, at 9:47:48
That's great! By the way, I answered your question re: fish oil in the other thread, above. I forgot to put your name in the subject line, though.
Posted by morganator on June 15, 2010, at 11:24:54
In reply to Re: More than Doubled Fish Oil Intake » morganator, posted by janejane on June 15, 2010, at 11:10:11
I got your response. Thanks! Good luck with the TCM!
Morgan
Posted by janejane on June 15, 2010, at 13:40:47
In reply to Re: More than Doubled Fish Oil Intake » janejane, posted by morganator on June 15, 2010, at 11:24:54
Morgan - I started responding to you in that other thread, but then realized it would be more appropriate to do it here since this is about fish oil rather than turmeric...
Yes, I was referring to Phosphatydil Serine. Expensive separately, and apparently good for the brain. If I recall (and understand) correctly, phospholipids help your mitochondria, which ultimately could improve cognitive functioning and mood.
Do you know anything about fatty acid analysis? I haven't really looked into it, but it seems like it could help identify needs. I did a quiz in a book ("Ultramind") and it seemed to indicate that I didn't have a deficiency so I don't worry about it too much. I do take Now Foods Super Omega 3 6 9 for menstrual cramps (it has a little bit of fish oil), but can't take too much or my face turns into an oil slick.
Aside from the oily skin (also acne) and possible anxiety, I'm also hesitant to take too much fish/krill since my HDL is high. (Yes, the "good" cholesterol.) Fish/krill can increase it, which for most people is a good thing, but I think I'm somewhat of an anomaly. They usually say to shoot for over 60, but mine is over 100, which is a little freaky. (One study I found suggests that too high is not good.)
Have you noticed any changes in your cholesterol levels since you've been on fish oil?
Posted by Lao Tzu on June 15, 2010, at 14:35:19
In reply to Re: More than Doubled Fish Oil Intake » morganator, posted by janejane on June 15, 2010, at 13:40:47
Good to hear that fish oil helps some people. I've been taking a low dose fish oil for three years now, and my triglyceride levels are normal and it helps my depression somewhat, i.e. a little more energy and slightly better mood. I can't seem to tolerate a very high dosage, but maybe I ought to try salmon oil instead. Thanks for your posts.
Lao
Posted by morganator on June 17, 2010, at 11:38:05
In reply to Re: More than Doubled Fish Oil Intake, posted by Lao Tzu on June 15, 2010, at 14:35:19
Not sure if Salmon oil is making the difference here, it may be but I don't believe it is. If anything, taking a superior product like Carlson's may be making a difference. When I first started taking fish oil 10 years ago I was just taking 2 or 3 of Kirkland brand and I felt great. I think it's just time for a change in brand and a major increase in dose. The brain is not the same as it used to be.
If anything, I would experiment with high ratio of EPA:DHA and high ratio DHA:EPA to see either make a difference.
Posted by herpills on June 18, 2010, at 16:23:15
In reply to More than Doubled Fish Oil Intake, posted by morganator on June 15, 2010, at 9:47:48
May I ask what dose of fish oil you are now taking? Thanks,
herpills
> I more than doubled my fish oil intake over the last few days. I take Carlson's Salmon Oil. It may be placebo but I swear I feel so much better already. I have a clearer head, less headache, more energy, and better mood. I started fish oil ten years ago with significant benefit after a week. I have experimented with taking more in the past without this kind of success. Maybe it is the brand I'm using that is making a difference. Whatever it is, it appears that I require more fish oil than I used to in order to reap the benefits.
Posted by morganator on June 20, 2010, at 18:16:43
In reply to Re: More than Doubled Fish Oil Intake » morganator, posted by herpills on June 18, 2010, at 16:23:15
I have been taking about 8 grams of salmon oil a day, sometimes more, yielding about 2.5 grams of EPA and DHA. I think I have been feeling better since increasing the dose. But I have been having some health issues lately, specifically thyroid issues, so I am not feeling that great and it is hard to tell how much the increase in fish oil is helping. I do not think it is hurting me in anyway. I will need another month or two of experimenting with high doses to see if I am really benefitting. I also will probably switch to Carlson's Fish Oil because I will not need to take as many capsules to get withing the 2 to 3 gram range of EPA and DHA.
I think it is always worth taking a shot at experimenting with high dose fish oil. If you don't notice a difference or if you feel worse you can always go back to a lower dose. Even if we don't get a noticeable mood boost from fish oil, I think we should all be taking it for several reasons-cholesterol, heart health, brain health, and joint health.
Posted by desolationrower on June 22, 2010, at 12:26:47
In reply to Re: More than Doubled Fish Oil Intake » morganator, posted by herpills on June 18, 2010, at 16:23:15
salmoln is not high in mercury.
it is high on the food chain, though.
-d/r
the taurine and some nutrients from offal in whole animals made me switch to mostly eating sardines and shellfish.take pills on days i don't eat any though.
Posted by morganator on June 22, 2010, at 14:16:38
In reply to Re: More than Doubled Fish Oil Intake, posted by desolationrower on June 22, 2010, at 12:26:47
Yeah I will probably switch back to Carlson's fish oils. I just tried Salmon because it was on sale at the place I work at.
Posted by Lao Tzu on July 2, 2010, at 16:17:25
In reply to Re: More than Doubled Fish Oil Intake, posted by Lao Tzu on June 15, 2010, at 14:35:19
I must be really sensitive to fish oil because if I take more than 1,500mg per day, it seems to push me more to the manic side. I don't get manic, but my energy levels rise and can be annoying. I wish I could take more. It would definitely be good for my cardiovascular system.
Posted by Hombre on July 3, 2010, at 2:13:28
In reply to Re: More than Doubled Fish Oil Intake, posted by Lao Tzu on July 2, 2010, at 16:17:25
Sometimes the best thing to do with added energy is to get out and exercise. Oftentimes the added energy is smoothed out and general anxiety is reduced as a bonus. While lack of energy is a major symptom of depression, having the energy but remaining sedentary will just cause increased discomfort and create the impression that there is never enough energy or there is anxiety.
One should feel anxious if not getting out and moving. If we didn't have this mechanism we'd slowly lose our health and ability to function normally. Exercise is not for the "physical" body. Exercise is the catalyst for metabolism, repair and growth, and most importantly necessary stimulus for learning and adapting to new conditions and stressors. The health of the brain is what's really at stake.
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